Roma, 17.3.2024
Egregio
Lettore,
riporto di seguito gli elementi significativi
riguardanti la moneta di figura:
Denario1,
zecca di Roma, 103 a. C.2, Crawford
319/1 (pag. 324), Sydenham
592 (pag. 82), numismatica classica
R-G274/1, indice di
rarità "(2)"
Descrizione sommaria (sono indicate in rosso le
parti della leggenda usurate o comunque non
leggibili):
D. Marte, testa elmata a sinistra (elmo dalla lunga
cresta, adorno di piuma su ciascun lato). Bordo
perlinato.
R. Q•TERM•MF3 in
esergo. Soldato romano, armato di spada e di scudo,
avanza a destra in soccorso di un compagno caduto,
affrontando un guerriero barbaro parimenti armato
che indossa un elmo di corno. Bordo perlinato.
La ricerca nel web di monete della tipologia di
figura ha dato luogo ai seguenti risultati:
- vcoins
€229.52 Quotazione: 03/16/24 Q. Minucius Thermus
M. f. AR Denarius Rome Mint 103 BC Obverse:
Helmeted head of Mars to left Reverse: Two
warriors in combat, one on left protecting a
fallen man; Q•TERM•MF in exergue References:
Crawford 319/1; BMCRR Italy 653-6; RSC Minucia 19
Size: 20mm, 3.84g Professional Numismatic Notes:
Very attractive old-collection tone and excellent
detail!.
- https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=4606&lot=237
Chaponnière & Firmenich SA Auction 13 16
May 2021 Lot 237 Starting price: 100 CHF Price
realized: 220 CHF ROMAN REPUBLIC. Q. Minucius
Thermus. Denarius 103 BC, Rome. RRC 319/1. AR.
3.83g. VF-XF. From the J. M. A. L. collection
formed between 1970 and 2000; Ex. Credit Suisse
Bern list 26, August 1978, lot 134.
- https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=6247&lot=276
Classical Numismatic Group, LLC Electronic Auction
527 16 Nov 2022 Lot 276. Estimate: 150 USD Price
realized: 400 USD. Q. Thermus M.f. 103 BC. AR
Denarius (18.5mm, 3.86g, 8h). Rome mint. Head of
Mars left, wearing crested helmet ornamented with
plume and annulet / Two warriors fighting, each
armed with sword and shield; the one on the left
protects a fallen comrade, the other wears horned
helmet. Crawford 319/1; Sydenham 592; Minucia 19;
RBW 1174. Toned. VF. From the Anthony Stewart
Collection, purchased from Richard Pearlman,
November 2010.
- vcoins €165.26
Quotazione: 03/16/24 Q. MINUCIUS THERMUS. (103
BC) Denarius, 3.87g. Pre-strike flan weight
gouge marks. Q. MINUCIUS THERMUS. (103 BC)
Obverse: Helmeted head of Mars left. Reverse:
Two warriors in combat, one protecting fallen
soldier. Q•TERM•MF. Flan weight control gouge
marks to right. Exergue: Mint City: Rome.
Minted 103 BC Reference: Cr. 319/1. Syd. 592.
Minucia 19. Blank flans were not weighed
individually but as a batch. When the weight
was above the target, one roman pound,
individual random flans were taken out and
gouged. The gouging mark in this coin,
therefore, precedes the actual striking of the
coin and it's not the result of later damage.
- https://www.numismatik-naumann.at/auktion/#!/auction/lot?a=3779&l=411&p=5
Auktion 132, Los 411 Zuschlag 95 EUR. 7
Gebote. Startpreis 40 EUR. Schätzpreis 50 EUR.
Beschreibung Q. THERMUS M. F. Denarius (103
BC). Rome. Obv: Head of Mars left, wearing
crested helmet, ornamented with plume and
annulet. Rev: Q TERM M F. Two warriors
fighting, each armed with sword and shield;
the one on the left protects fallen comrade;
the other one wears horned helmet. Crawford
319/1. Condition: Near very fine. Weight:
3.90g. Diameter: 20mm.
- https://www.numismatik-naumann.at/auktion/#!/auction/lot?a=3779&l=412&p=5
Auktion 132, Los 412 Zuschlag 90 EUR 10
Gebote. Startpreis 40 EUR. Schätzpreis 50 EUR.
Beschreibung Q. THERMUS M. F. Denarius (103
BC). Rome. Obv: Head of Mars left, wearing
crested helmet, ornamented with plume and
annulet. Rev: Q TERM M F. Two warriors
fighting, each armed with sword and shield;
the one on the left protects fallen comrade;
the other one wears horned helmet. Crawford
319/1. Condition: Near very fine. Weight:
3.76g. Diameter: 20mm.
- https://www.numismatik-naumann.at/auktion/#!/auction/lot?a=3779&l=413&p=5
Auktion 132, Los 413 Zuschlag 130 EUR 11
Gebote. Startpreis 40 EUR. Schätzpreis 50 EUR.
Beschreibung Q. THERMUS M. F. Denarius (103
BC). Rome. Obv: Head of Mars left, wearing
crested helmet, ornamented with plume and
annulet. Rev: Q TERM M F. Two warriors
fighting, each armed with sword and shield;
the one on the left protects fallen comrade;
the other one wears horned helmet. Crawford
319/1. Condition: Very fine. Weight: 3.88g.
Diameter: 21mm.
- https://leunumismatik.com/source/images/auction/45/01332q00.jpg
Lot 1332Q. Thermus Mf, 103 av. Denier (Argent,
19mm, 4,06g, 1h), Rome. Tête de Mars à gauche,
coiffée d'un casque à crête orné de deux
volutes et d'un panache. Rev. Q• LE RM• MF
Deux guerriers combattant, chacun armé d'une
épée et d'un bouclier ; celui de gauche
protège un camarade tombé au combat, l'autre
porte un casque à cornes. Babelon (Minucia)
19. Crawford 319/1. RBW 1174. Sydenham 592.
Joliment tonique. Frappé légèrement décentré ,
sinon à peu près très beau. Prix de départ:
25 CHF. Prix d'adjudication: 95 CHF. Nombre
d'offres: 10 offres.
- https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=7184&lot=541
Nomos AG obolos 29 8 Oct 2023 Lot 541 Starting
price: 75 CHF Price realized: 130 CHF Q.
Thermus M.f, 103 BC. Denarius (Silver, 19 mm,
3.86g, 11h), Rome. Head of Mars to left,
wearing crested helmet ornamented with plume
and annulet. Rev. Q · (THE)RM · (MF) Two
warriors fighting, each armed with a sword in
his right hand and a shield on his left arm;
the one on the left protects a fallen comrade,
the other wears horned helmet. Babelon
(Minucia) 19. Crawford 319/1. RBW 1174.
Sydenham 592. Reverse struck from a somewhat
worn die, otherwise, good very fine. As Roman
moneyers typically promoted their family
history on their coinage, the reverse design
probably recalls a specific event of one of
the moneyer's ancestors. Perhaps it
illustrates the deeds of one Quintus Minucius
Thermus, consul in 193 BC, who distinguished
himself by killing 9,000 Ligure warriors in
the neighborhood of Pisa and driving the
remaining enemy from the field of battle (Livy
XXXV, 21.7-8). For this heroic deed the
ancestor was not awarded a triumph, although
he had received one earlier for conquering the
Iberians near Turdo in Spain.
- cngcoins
Electronic Auction 545 Lot nuber 464 Q.
Thermus M.f. 103 BC. AR Denarius (19mm, 3.82g,
1h). Rome mint. Near VF. Estimated: $ 100
Roman Republican, Silver Sold For $ 70. Q.
Thermus M.f. 103 BC. AR Denarius (19mm, 3.82g,
1h). Rome mint. Head of Mars left, wearing
crested helmet ornamented with plume and
annulet / Two warriors fighting, each armed
with sword and shield; the one on the left
protects a fallen comrade, the other wears
horned helmet. Crawford 319/1; Sydenham 592;
Minucia 19; RBW 1174. Deeply toned, porosity,
edge chip. Near VF. From the AVARAE
Collection, purchased from Harlan J. Berk.
Closing Date and Time: 30 August 2023 at
12:34:20 ET.
- http://gallery.respublicacoins.com/picture.php?/67
Roman Republic AR Denarius(19.5mm, 3.95g, 8h),
Q. Minucius Thermus M.f., moneyer, 103 B.C.,
Rome mint. Head of Mars left, wearing crested
helmet ornamented with plume and annulet / Two
warriors fighting, each armed with sword and
shield; the one on the left protects a fallen
comrade, the other wears horned helmet.
Crawford 319/1; Sydenham 592; Babelon Minucia
19; Russo RBW 1174. From the description of a
similar coin auctioned by Roma Numismatics: This coin records the brave
deeds of the moneyer’s ancestor and namesake,
Quintus Minucius Q. f. L. n. Thermus who was
elected consul in 193 and assigned Liguria as
his province. From his base in Pisa, he waged
war against the Ligurians. His command was
extended for the following year, during which
time he defeated the Ligurian forces near
Pisa. He remained as proconsul in Liguria for
191–190. During this time it appears that he
may have won the distinction of the corona
civica, the second highest military award to
which a Roman could aspire, by saving the life
of a fellow citizen in battle through slaying
an enemy on a spot not further held by the
enemy army that day - this act being depicted
on the reverse. He may also have been the same
Thermus who served as military tribune under
Scipio in North Africa in 202 BC. Appian
relates that about this time there was a
cavalry engagement between the forces of
Hannibal and those of Scipio near Zama, in
which the latter had the advantage. On the
succeeding days they had sundry skirmishes
until Scipio, learning that Hannibal was very
short of supplies and was expecting a convoy,
sent the military tribune, [Quintus Minucius]
Thermus, by night to attack the supply train.
Thermus took a position on the crest of a hill
at a narrow pass, where he killed 4,000
Africans, took as many more prisoners, and
brought the supplies to Scipio.
Veniamo
alle conclusioni: La moneta in esame ha subito un
pesante intervento di pulizia. Le sue
caratteristiche fisiche, generali e di stile non
si discostano da quelle delle monete d'epoca di
pari tipologia. A mio avviso, nel presente stato
di conservazione, il valore venale del campione in
esame, è stimabile in una decina di euro.
Un saluto cordiale.
Giulio De Florio
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Note:
(1) Raccolgo
in tabella le caratteristiche fisiche dei
denari della tipologia di figura reperiti nel web:
Riferimenti |
Peso(g) |
Diametro(mm) |
Asse di conio (H) |
Link1 |
3,84 |
20 |
- |
Link2 |
3,83 |
- |
- |
Link3 |
3,86 |
18,5 |
8 |
Link4 |
3,87 |
- |
- |
Link5 |
3,90 |
20 |
- |
Link6 |
3,76 |
20 |
- |
Link7 |
3,88 |
21 |
- |
Link8 |
4,06 |
19 |
1 |
Link9 |
3,86 |
19 |
11 |
Link10 |
3,82 |
19 |
1 |
Link11 |
3,95 |
19,5 |
8 |
Dalla tabella si evince che le caratteristiche
fisiche del denario di figura (3,47g, 18mm)
rientrano (visto anche lo stato d'usura della
moneta) nei margini di variabilità delle monete
d'epoca di pari tipologia.
(2) 96-95 a.C., secondo
Sydenham.
(3) Q•TERM•MF
(Quintus Thermus Minucii filius). Secondo il
Crawford, il magistrato monetale cha ha battuto
la moneta è da identificarsi probabilmente con
un Q. Minucius M.f. Ter. del collegio di Pompeo
Strabone ad Ascoli, legato piuttosto che
questore. Il tipo del rovescio allude senza
dubbio ad un atto di eroismo bellico compiuto da
uno degli antenati del monetiere, vano, secondo
l'autore, ipotizzare quale. Per dovere di
cronaca tuttavia non posso non riportare le note
in calce alla moneta di cui al link che
propongono una tesi diversa: "La moneta registra
le azioni coraggiose di Quintus Minucius Q. f.
L. n. Thermus, antenato e omonimo del monetiere
che, eletto console, ebbe assegnata la Liguria
come provincia di competenza. Dalla base di
Pisa, egli condusse la guerra contro i Liguri.
Il suo comando fu prolungato sino all'anno
successivo, durante il quale sconfisse le forze
liguri vicino Pisa. Rimase proconsole in Liguria
dal 191 al 190. Durante questo periodo sembra
che gli venisse conferita la corona civica, la
seconda onorificenza militare più importante a
cui un romano poteva aspirare, per aver salvato
la vita di un concittadino in battaglia
uccidendo un nemico e mantenendo la posizione
fino alla fine della battaglia, questo atto
sarebbe raffigurato sul retro. Potrebbe
trattarsi dello stesso Thermus che nel 202 a.C.
servì come tribuno militare sotto Scipione in
Nord Africa. Appiano riferisce che in questo
periodo ci fu uno scontro di cavalleria tra le
forze di Annibale e quelle di Scipione vicino
Zama, nel quale quest'ultimo ebbe la meglio. Nei
giorni successivi si verificarono varie
schermaglie fino a che Scipione, sapendo che
Annibale era a corto di scorte e si aspettava
l’arrivo di un convoglio, inviò il tribuno
militare Quintus Minucius Thermus di notte ad
attaccare la carovana delle scorte. Thermus
prese posizione sulla cresta di una collina in
uno stretto passaggio, dove uccise 4.000
Africani, ne catturò molti altri ancora e portò
le scorte a Scipione." |